KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM HH HARIVILAS MAHARAJ’S MORNING BHAGAVATAM CLASS ON SB 2.8.10-13:
- Einstein’s concept of God and Religion –
- “I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it.”[33]
- “I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension, nor do I wish it otherwise; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls. Enough for me the mystery of the eternity of life, and the inkling of the marvellous structure of reality, together with the single-hearted endeavour to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the reason that manifests itself in nature.”[34]
- “I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion, only His nonexistence could excuse Him.”[35]
- “I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own — a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms.”[36]
- “The man who is thoroughly convinced of the universal operation of the law of causation cannot for a moment entertain the idea of a being who interferes in the course of events — that is, if he takes the hypothesis of causality really seriously. He has no use for the religion of fear and equally little for social or moral religion. A God who rewards and punishes is inconceivable to him for the simple reason that a man’s actions are determined by necessity, external and internal, so that in God’s eyes he cannot be responsible, any more than an inanimate object is responsible for the motions it goes through.”[37]
- In this class Maharaj methodically refutes all the statements and beliefs of Einstein with Scriptiral evidence.
SB 2.8.10 TRANSLATION:
Please also explain the Personality of Godhead, who lies in every heart as the Supersoul, and as the Lord of all energies, but is untouched by His external energy.
Undoubtedly the form of the Lord who was seen by Brahmā must be transcendental; otherwise how could He simply look upon the creative energy without being touched? It is understood also that the same puruṣa lies in the heart of every living entity. This also requires proper explanation.
SB 2.8.11 – Actual position of different planetary systems
O learned brāhmaṇa, it was formerly explained that all the planets of the universe with their respective governors are situated in the different parts of the gigantic body of the virāṭ-puruṣa. I have also heard that the different planetary systems are supposed to be in the gigantic body of the virāṭ-puruṣa. But what is their actual position? Will you please explain that?
SB 2.8.12 – Question on Time – Past, present & future
Also please explain the duration of time between creation and annihilation, and that of other subsidiary creations, as well as the nature of time, indicated by the sound of past, present and future. Also, please explain the duration and measurement of life of the different living beings known as the demigods, the human beings, etc., in different planets of the universe.
Past, present and future are different features of time to indicate the duration of life for the universe and all its paraphernalia, including the different living beings in different planets.
SB 2.8.13 – Question on Time
O purest of the brāhmaṇas, please also explain the cause of the different durations of time, both short and long, as well as the beginning of time, following the course of action
SB 2.8.14 – Question on reactions from modes (karma)
Then again, kindly describe how the proportionate accumulation of the reactions resulting from the different modes of material nature act upon the desiring living being, promoting or degrading him among the different species of life, beginning from the demigods down to the most insignificant creatures.
The actions and reactions of all works in the material modes of nature, either in the minute form or in the gigantic form, are accumulated, and thus the result of such accumulated actions and reactions of karma, or work, become manifested in the same proportion. How such actions and reactions take place, what the different procedures are, and in what proportion they act are all subject matters of Mahārāja Parīkṣit’s inquiries from the great brāhmaṇa Śukadeva Gosvāmī.
Life in the higher planets, known as the abodes of the denizens of heaven, is obtained not by the strength of spacecraft (as is now being contemplated by the inexperienced scientists), but by works done in the mode of goodness.
Even on the very planet where we are now living, there are restrictions upon the entrance of foreigners into a country where the citizens are more prosperous. For example, the American government has many restrictions for the entrance of foreigners from less prosperous countries. The reason is that the Americans do not wish to share their prosperity with any foreigner who has not qualified himself as a citizen of America. Similarly, the same mentality is prevailing in every other planet where there are more intelligent living beings residing. The higher planetary living conditions are all in the mode of goodness, and anyone desiring to enter the higher planets like the moon, sun and Venus must qualify thoroughly by activity in complete goodness.
Mahārāja Parīkṣit’s inquiries are on the basis of proportionate actions of goodness which qualify one in this planet to be promoted to the highest regions of the universe.
Even on this planet of our present residence, one cannot achieve a good position within the social order without being qualified with proportionate good work. One cannot forcibly sit on the chair of a high-court judge without being qualified for the post. Similarly, one cannot enter into the higher planetary systems without being qualified by good works in this life. Persons addicted to the habits of passion and ignorance have no chance of entering the higher planetary systems simply by an electronic mechanism.
According to the statement of the Bhagavad-gītā (9.25), persons trying to qualify themselves for promotion to the higher, heavenly planets can go there; similarly, persons trying for the Pitṛlokas can go there; similarly, persons trying to improve the conditions on this earth can also do that, and persons who are engaged in going back home, back to Godhead, can achieve that result. The various actions and reactions of work in the mode of goodness are generally known as pious work with devotional service, culture of knowledge with devotional service, mystic powers with devotional service and (at last) devotional service unmixed with any other varieties of goodness. This unmixed devotional service is transcendental and is called parā bhakti. It alone can promote a person to the transcendental kingdom of God. Such a transcendental kingdom is not a myth, but is as factual as the moon. One must have transcendental qualities to understand the kingdom of God and God Himself.
If we read SB you can save a lot of money, time and useless labor.
Useless labor – trying to go to the moon, mars, asteroids.
Useless labor – Speculating to understand how the universe works – Failure
Useless labor – Speculating and trying to understand who God is – Failure
Useless labor – Speculating and trying to understand what matter is – Failure
SB is the science including Mathematics, chemistry, space exploration,.. It has all knowledge in it. It already tells what not to do and waste your life and also tells you what to do,
How to go to other planets – Easy journey to other planets
How the universe is working – Read SB with bonafide devotees
How law of Karma works – Read SB
If you want to be misled – go to school
Waste of money and waste of effort.
These verses are very pertinent to Einstein. He was trying to figure out –
- Who God is
- What is philosophy
- What is science
- How the universe works
He figured out a few little things.. He admits also..
Faraday – discovered laws of electricity, electromagnetic energy, everybody doubted him, he was a normal clerk who has a fascination for science.
He discovered electromagnetic energy
Maxwell – was brilliant, he had the mathematical formula for the Faraday’s laws,
Then comes Tesla, Jagadish Chandra Bose..
What were Einstein’s big things – he was fascinated by light.. Light energy is just more than light and heat and more things going on. Light is not exactly a wave.. It was made of individual atoms of light..
E = mc2
Energy was transformed into matter and matter into energy..
Ofcourse light is the reflection of Brahma Jyothi.. But he did not believe in God.
Newton and Einstein came to the same conclusion – Whatever they discovered is only scratch on the surface..
Einstein’s theory and Newton’s theory were incomplete. They faced obstacles and could not move forward in their discoveries. They know their limitations. They could not go beyond a certain point.
- Einsteins disbelief in personal God
- Acceptance of Spinoza’s impersonal pantheistic God.
- Absolute aw for the organization of nature
Einstein’s Quote –
The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books – a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.
The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. … We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza’s Pantheism.
Einstein’s theory on AfterLife –
I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it.
He was entitled the smartest person on this planet.. He took that and started explaining Who God is, After life, … But he has no clue about it.. He was not the smartest,, he was dumbest..
On 17 July 1953 a woman who was a licensed Baptist pastor sent Einstein a letter asking if he had felt assured about attaining everlasting life with the Creator. Einstein replied, “I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it.”[33] This sentiment was also expressed in Einstein’s book The World as I See It (1935), “I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension, nor do I wish it otherwise; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls. Enough for me the mystery of the eternity of life, and the inkling of the marvellous structure of reality, together with the single-hearted endeavour to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the reason that manifests itself in nature.”[34]
Faraday and Maxwell were smarter than Einstein, they did the research and proved their theories
Einstein and Neil Bohr’s Were enemies.
When quantum theory came into play there was a problem with observation.
Bohr’s thought that – At the bottom of matter something mysterious is going on..
Einstein wanted to prove that everything is governed by laws and wanted to disprove Bohrs.
After 30 years of debate it was found that Bohr was right and Einstein was wrong
Einstein made a lot of mistakes. If was alive he would be denounced by ME TOO
He cheated a lot of women and had multiple relationships..
He cannot inspire anyone about ethics if he himself has no ethics
His false ego does not let him accept – Personal God, life after death..
TWO WAYS OF looking painting –
Recognize the lights and darks, shapes, shades
Recognize a fantastic painter who painted the painting..
For the recognition of work he did he is getting – money, nobel prize, fame, position in Princeton.. Et.c, for the small thing he did.. But he does not even give credit to the God who created this universe..
Einstein was averse to the Abrahamic conception of Heaven and Hell, particularly as it pertained to a system of everlasting reward and punishment. In a 1915 letter to the Swiss physicist Edgar Meyer, Einstein wrote, “I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion, only His nonexistence could excuse Him.”[35] He also stated, “I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own — a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms.”[36]
Part of Einstein’s tension with the Abrahamic afterlife was his belief in determinism and his rejection of free will. Einstein stated, “The man who is thoroughly convinced of the universal operation of the law of causation cannot for a moment entertain the idea of a being who interferes in the course of events — that is, if he takes the hypothesis of causality really seriously. He has no use for the religion of fear and equally little for social or moral religion. A God who rewards and punishes is inconceivable to him for the simple reason that a man’s actions are determined by necessity, external and internal, so that in God’s eyes he cannot be responsible, any more than an inanimate object is responsible for the motions it goes through.”[37]
Whenever anyone writes a book – it is to reject something or limit you from going somewhere with your curiosity..
Einstein was part of the cancel culture.. He is not brilliant, He is teaching darkness and ignorance here.
Just because he came up with E-mc2 does not make him an expert on morality, spiritual world, God.. He is usurping the fact that he is the smartest man on the earth and he can talk about all these topics and people believe it..
If we accept – Cause and effect – as law of nature then we will go into illusion.
Krishna has mutually contradictory qualities you cannot understand with mundane science if you are a determinist like Einstein..
This is what is happening to real scientists, they realize that they are limitations. But the majority of fake scientists believe and portray that they can do anything.. Bezos wants to open a restaurant, salon in Bezos.. Elon Musk — giong to moon, mars, ..
Cosmic spirituality
In 1930 Einstein published a widely discussed essay in The New York Times Magazine about his beliefs.[37] With the title “Religion and Science,”
Einstein distinguished three human impulses which develop religious belief:
fear,
social or moral concerns, and
cosmic religious feeling.
A primitive understanding of causality causes fear, and the fearful invent supernatural beings analogous to themselves. The desire for love and support create a social and moral need for a supreme being; both these styles have an anthropomorphic concept of God. The third style, which Einstein deemed most mature, originates in a deep sense of awe and mystery. He said, the individual feels “the sublimity and marvelous order which reveal themselves in nature … and he wants to experience the universe as a single significant whole.”
He wanted to create a unified theory.. But he failed.. Krishna is the unified field theory.. Because he did not read SB and did not have a bonafide spiritual world.. He could not understand the unified field theory..
All there scientists they use complex words which baffles people and let them think that they are smart. Making fun of people by using big language.
Einstein saw science as an antagonist of the first two styles of religious belief, but as a partner in the third.[37] He maintained, “even though the realms of religion and science in themselves are clearly marked off from each other” there are “strong reciprocal relationships and dependencies” as aspirations for truth derive from the religious sphere. He continued:
A person who is religiously enlightened appears to me to be one who has, to the best of his ability, liberated himself from the fetters of his selfish desires and is preoccupied with thoughts, feelings and aspirations to which he clings because of their super-personal value. It seems to me that what is important is the force of this superpersonal content … regardless of whether any attempt is made to unite this content with a Divine Being, for otherwise it would not be possible to count Buddha and Spinoza as religious personalities. Accordingly a religious person is devout in the sense that he has no doubt of the significance of those super-personal objects and goals which neither require nor are capable of rational foundation … In this sense religion is the age-old endeavor of mankind to become clearly and completely conscious of these values and goals and constantly to strengthen and extend their effect. If one conceives of religion and science according to these definitions then a conflict between them appears impossible. For science can only ascertain what is, but not what should be…[37]
They state principles.. They create their frame of reference, within that f
An understanding of causality was fundamental to Einstein’s ethical beliefs. In Einstein’s view, “the doctrine of a personal God interfering with natural events could never be refuted, in the real sense, by science,” for religion can always take refuge in areas that science can not yet explain. It was Einstein’s belief that in the “struggle for the ethical good, teachers of religion must have the stature to give up the doctrine of a personal God, that is, give up that source of fear and hope” and cultivate the “Good, the True, and the Beautiful in humanity itself.”[37]
In his 1934 book The World as I See It, Einstein expanded on his religiosity, “A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms — it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man.”[38]
In 1936 Einstein received a letter from a young girl in the sixth grade. She had asked him, with the encouragement of her teacher, if scientists pray. Einstein replied in the most elementary way he could:
Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the actions of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a supernatural being. However, it must be admitted that our actual knowledge of these laws is only imperfect and fragmentary, so that, actually, the belief in the existence of basic all-embracing laws in nature also rests on a sort of faith. All the same this faith has been largely justified so far by the success of scientific research. But, on the other hand, everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort, which is indeed quite different from the religiosity of someone more naive.”[39]