KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM HH HARIVILAS MAHARAJ’S MORNING BHAGAVATAM CLASS ON SB 2.9.2:
- The different positions of the living entities in the material world under multifarious manifestations of bodies are due to the misconception of “mine” and “I.”
- The karmī thinks of this world as “mine,” and the jñānī thinks “I am” everything.
- The whole material conception of politics, sociology, philanthropy, altruism, etc., conceived by the conditioned souls is on the basis of this misconceived “I” and “mine,” which are products of a strong desire to enjoy material life.
- Identification with the body and the place where the body is obtained under different conceptions of socialism, nationalism, family affection, and so on and so forth is all due to forgetfulness of the real nature of the living entity, and the whole misconception of the bewildered living entity can be removed by the association of Śukadeva Gosvāmī and Mahārāja Parīkṣit, as all this is explained in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.
- “A human being who identifies this body made of three elements with his self, who considers the by-products of the body to be his kinsmen, who considers the land of birth worshipable, and who goes to a place of pilgrimage simply to take a bath rather than meet men of transcendental knowledge there, is to be considered like an ass or a cow.” (Bhāg. 10.84.13)
- Surrender means in any condition, fully surrendered to Kṛṣṇa.
- The worldly men, they are duplicitous, speaking something cheater. That is the…, one of the qualification of materialistic man.
- The right thing can be said only by liberated person. Therefore we take advice from the liberated person.
SB 2.9.2 – 12/04/21
The illusioned living entity appears in so many forms offered by the external energy of the Lord. While enjoying in the modes of material nature, the encaged living entity misconceives, thinking in terms of “I” and “mine.”
The different forms of the living entities are different dresses offered by the illusory, external energy of the Lord according to the modes of nature the living being desires to enjoy. The external, material energy is represented by her three modes, namely goodness, passion and ignorance. So even in the material nature there is a chance of an independent choice by the living entity, and according to his choice the material energy offers him different varieties of material bodies. There are 900,000 varieties of material bodies in the water, 2,000,000 vegetable bodies, 1,100,000 worms and reptiles, 1,000,000 forms of birds, 3,000,000 different bodies of beasts, and 400,000 human forms. Altogether there are 8,400,000 varieties of bodies in different planets of the universe, and the living entity is traveling by so many transmigrations according to different modes of enjoying spirit within himself. Even in one particular body the living entity changes from childhood to boyhood, from boyhood to youth, from youth to old age and from old age to another body created by his own action. The living entity creates his own body by his personal desires, and the external energy of the Lord supplies him the exact form by which he can enjoy his desires to the fullest extent. The tiger wanted to enjoy the blood of another animal, and therefore, by the grace of the Lord, the material energy supplied him the body of the tiger with facilities for enjoying blood from another animal. Similarly, a living entity desiring to get the body of a demigod in a higher planet can also get it by the grace of the Lord. And if he is intelligent enough, he can desire to get a spiritual body to enjoy the company of the Lord, and he will get it. So the minute freedom of the living entity can be fully utilized, and the Lord is so kind that He will award the living entity the same type of body he desires. The living entity’s desiring is like dreaming of a golden mountain. A person knows what a mountain is, and he knows also what gold is. Out of his desire only, he dreams of a golden mountain, and when the dream is over he sees something else in his presence. He finds in his awakened state that there is neither gold nor a mountain, and what to speak of a golden mountain.
The different positions of the living entities in the material world under multifarious manifestations of bodies are due to the misconception of “mine” and “I.” The karmī thinks of this world as “mine,” and the jñānī thinks “I am” everything. The whole material conception of politics, sociology, philanthropy, altruism, etc., conceived by the conditioned souls is on the basis of this misconceived “I” and “mine,” which are products of a strong desire to enjoy material life. Identification with the body and the place where the body is obtained under different conceptions of socialism, nationalism, family affection, and so on and so forth is all due to forgetfulness of the real nature of the living entity, and the whole misconception of the bewildered living entity can be removed by the association of Śukadeva Gosvāmī and Mahārāja Parīkṣit, as all this is explained in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.
BG 3.40, SB 10.84.13
yasyātma-buddhiḥ kuṇape tri-dhātuke
sva-dhīḥ kalatrādiṣu bhauma ijya-dhīḥ
yat-tīrtha-buddhiḥ salile na karhicij
janeṣv abhijñeṣu sa eva go-kharaḥ
“A human being who identifies this body made of three elements with his self, who considers the by-products of the body to be his kinsmen, who considers the land of birth worshipable, and who goes to a place of pilgrimage simply to take a bath rather than meet men of transcendental knowledge there, is to be considered like an ass or a cow.” (Bhāg. 10.84.13)
I am that I am – Many interpretations in Christianity Bible
Morality is almost similar across all religions
About soul, body and god – there is huge difference across all religions
Everybody in this world they think that they are the controllers.
Example – Few days ago in the TV a black thug entered the house to rob them..and killed the lady in the Husband and wife. Lady is in 80s.. They live in a mansion in LA and they are very famous singers..
This concept of mine leads to many problems in life. Actually everything belongs to Krsna..everything is made of matter and spirit. Matter belongs to Krsna and soul belongs to Krsna.
I am a product of matter , Matter belongs to me – influence of the modes
When there is a strong desire to enjoy the material world – we get controlled by lust, anger, greed, envy.. three fold miseries….
SP example of hunter of how he catches monkeys – Hunter leaves a wine bottle with cherry … monkey tries hard to get his hand into the bottle and will not let go of it eventhough the hunter is after him to catch and he gets caught. This is the problem of the concept of I and mine.
What is the real concept of I – jivera swaroopa hai nityera..
The wrong concept I am this body and sense gratification is the purpose will keep the living entity perpetually in this world..
Lecture by Srila Prabhupada on Qualities of Devotees
Satisfied, in any condition. Not that “I must have all these things; then I’ll be satisfied. Otherwise, I’m going from the temple.” [laughs] No, this is not Vaiṣṇava qualification. You must live with the devotees, even if you are not satisfied. Any condition, you should be satisfied. Because as soon as you leave the company, you become again rogues, again demon. At least you’ll be saved if you keep with the company of the devotees. Satāṁ prasaṅgān mama vīrya-saṁvidaḥ [SB 3.25.25]. If you give up the company, then you again become rogues and demons. Therefore you must be satisfied, in whatever condition. “Whatever Kṛṣṇa has given, that’s all right.” Satisfied.
Surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. And that satisfaction can be achieved only when one is fully surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. If I have surrendered to Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa has taken my charge, Kṛṣṇa says, ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyo mokṣayiṣyāmi [Bg. 18.66], then why shall I bother myself? If I am thinking, “I am suffering,” it is also Kṛṣṇa’s grace. We should take like that. Even in my consideration I am in a position which is apparently suffering, we must accept as Kṛṣṇa’s grace = “All right, I have surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. If Kṛṣṇa is giving me suffering, that’s all right.” That is surrender. “Oh, I have surrendered to Kṛṣṇa, and now Kṛṣṇa is giving me suffering? Oh, leave Kṛṣṇa consciousness,” that is not surrender. Surrender means in any condition you’ll remain surrendered. That is surrender. Not that I put my own condition, and if you satisfy me, then I shall… That is business; that is not surrender. Surrender means in any condition, fully surrendered to Kṛṣṇa.
Without hankering. What is the hankering? Why shall I be hankering? I know Kṛṣṇa will give me all protection; otherwise, why shall I hanker? Without hankering. Simple; no duplicity. Simple. The worldly men, they are duplicitous, speaking something cheater. That is the…, one of the qualification of materialistic man. He must be a cheater. There are four defects = commit mistake, to be illusioned, to become cheater, and imperfect senses. This is called material life, conditioned life. He must commit mistakes. However a great philosopher…
We are talking about the philosophers; so many contradictory things they say. Because he’s an ordinary man. How he can say the right thing? It is not possible. The right thing can be said only by liberated person. Therefore we take advice from the liberated person. Just like we are understanding all these from Vyāsadeva, from Śukadeva Gosvāmī. They are liberated. We are not reading some Mr. John R. Meade’s book. No. Liberated soul. So that should be our source of knowledge.
WHO IS A VAISHNAVA :
“Asat sangha tyaga.. “ A vaishnava is someone who avoids the association of materialistic men.
During book distribution – We are giving association.. We are helping them and giving Krsna to them.
If you sit down to eat dinner with materialist, hearing all kinds of nonsense talk – That is association. They keep the association of genuine devotees.
Basis of satisfaction – Satam sangavat.. Associating with genuine devotees and getting purified..by hearing SB and BG
SB 1.7.6 – Suffering and misery is unnecessary..it is only due to refusing Krsna;s instruction and listening to the speculators all over even in religion.. The devotee tries to eliminate it by giving people an opportunity to hear BG and SB.
Devotee understands that materialistic people are talking nonsense.. Big bang..
A real person is eternally liberated, has a spiritual body, is an eternal servant of Krsna fully satisfied by the transcendental activities in the spiritual world..
Why try to do something impossible. Nobody is forcing you to get married, get children work in this and that company.. These are the choices made by you and they lead to responsibilities..
But if we surrender ..to Krsna .. one can execute the dutied properly and slowly ans easily is able to walk away with wife or without wife and go for Vanaprastha and eventually become a sannyasi.. No one should walk away from family responsibility..